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wagb278
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:52 am    Post subject: AQ Import Ver 2.0.14 Reply with quote

I tried importing my AQ database and images multiple times. Each time asking that the links be preserved because I want the images to be available if someone opens the AQ database from the PE project. Each time I got the same results - that being the filenames in the Project's database were not complete. The error was always the fist 5 (or so) characters of the JPG filename were dropped. Same as happened in version 2.0 13 of PE.

NEW PROBLEM - I can not delete the folders successfully. I now have 6 folders named Ancestral Quest Import in my PE Project and most of those are empty. So the Delete Folder action appears to empty the contents but does not remove the folder. the Delete folder action does not complete and leaves me with the hour glass icon attached to the mouse pointer. But I can select another folder and then return to the one I just deleted to see the contents are gone - and the "Unexpected" message appears.

On my final attempt to load AQ and its associated pictures I tried not checking the box to retain the links - just to see what would happen. I was very suprised to find the AQ file in one folder and the pictures in another folder - AND THE LINKS WORKED. This is the reverse of what the check box indicates. Or is it just me? So, to me the wording of the check box is the reverse what it should be.

It appears that if you want the images to retain their link to the database, you do not check the box.

What I don't understand is why the question is even being asked? Why would anyone want to load the database (and the images) and have the links in the database intentinally broken? the Database file in the PE project is read-only so the links can't be fixed once the database is loaded. If I were so inclined to not want any pictures linked to the database, shouldn't PE just empty the links (remove the links during import, point to a null file, or something). If I laod a database and request only the database (not media files) then PE could set any media links it locates to some empty state. But don't just corrupt the filename of a link. Currupting the link causes AQ software to pop up an error message every time I select an individual that has an image associated.

If it will help - my AQ database has links to my Scrapbook image files with the following 3 examples:
Code:

   CAREY, Harry Sr-44#J2.jpg
   CAREY, Harry Sr-44#J1.jpg
   CAREY, Harry Jr-950#J3.jpg
   

When PE corrupts the linked filenames the results for these are:
Code:

   , Harry Sr-44#J2.jpg
   , Harry Sr-44#J1.jpg
   , Harry Jr-950#J3.jpg


I tried many variations by changing the filenames and links in AQ to no avail. I tried removing the "," and using an underscore, and other similar characters thinking that might be the problem. But it appears that PE simply removes the first 5, or so, characters form the filename. I just don't understand why you are doing that. Other picture files had the same symptom - that of missing the first 5 characters. Examples are:

Code:
IRVING, John-1#J1.jpg 
became
Code:
G, John-1#J1.jpg 
and
Code:
FOSTER, Laura-2#J1.jpg 
became
Code:
R, Laura-2#J1.jpg


OK - I did finally stumble upon a sequence that gave me the results I wanted - an imported AQ database with working links. So there is a valid path in the PE software that gives the desired results. But the interatin with the human user to cause the software to take that path appears illogical.

Now fix the delete folder action. That was working in the previous version (2.0.13).

If it makes a difference - I only have JPG image files, no audio or video.

I think I will be trying other types of files linked to AQ, such a document files. I'll let you know how that works out.

Jim
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:27 am    Post subject: Still Having Import Problems Reply with quote

Expanding on my previous post -

I tried to import my REAL AQ database with images linked using the process used in the previous Post and it did NOT work.

My For-Real database has the images in a folder at the same level as as the database file named SCRAPBOOK. When I imported the database and images to the project I get two new folders (one with the database file and one with all the images). The links in the database are set to reference image files in the SCRAPBOOK folder. An example being:

Code:

C:\PROGRA~1\PASSAG~1\Projects\FHP00001\Files\FIAD2A~1\SCRAPBOOK\IRVING,John F-1#J3.jpg


For me to be able to use PE for passing my data this MUST work!

I even tried creating a new folder in the project named SCRAPBOOK and making it a parent for the folder that holds the images. But that doesn't work. I also tried moving some of the images into the NEW SCRAPBOOK folder in the project and renaming the folder holding the images to SCRAPBOOK to no avail.

I guess the name I assign to a folder is not the real folder name used by the PE software. PE seems to make up a name to use internally that users don't have access to. Example - the "FIAD2A~1" in the above path.

The working copy of the database/images that I used in the previous post that did work, I had moved all the files into a single directory and manually doctored the links in the database to point to this test directory. I don't want to have to do this to create CDs using PE. My database is too volitile to have to perform that action just to make a CD.

Jim
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:48 am    Post subject: re: Still Having Import Problems Reply with quote

just as a wild hare, have you tried using lower case instead of upper in those file names?

You might find my comments about deleting in the post "Adding new items" (I think it was) to be of interest.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I don't use AQ, so can't help with the problems you've seen, but I would also take the "#" out of the file name. Any symbols CAN cause hard to figure out problems.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Filenames are Legal Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestions, but the characters used in my fileanmes are legal to Windows, and if an application has problems adhearing to the rules imposed by the Operation System (at least file system) that is the wrong approach. When considering this file naming convention I researched the rules for characters in filenames to ensure I was not asking too much of Windows. Since then I have seen notices that various network applications seem to have new problems with the Space character. This reply is not addressed to the PE staff.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:15 pm    Post subject: Import AQ Reply with quote

I've been thinking about pre-processing steps I would need to perfrom to prepare my For-Real AQ data to build a PE project and cut a CD. Refer to one of my previous Posts.

Maybe it is not as difficult as I alluded to in the previous Post. Because AQ software includes the ability to alter the file path for all scrapbook files with one operation I might be able to live with that. But I really would prefer to be able to just import my normal AQ data and Scrapbook entries without having to prepare a special copy - all files (database and media files) in a single directory.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jim,

My idea of something to try was not to suggest that your names were wrong - rather that you never know when and where you are going to want to use those same file names again.

It may be that the characters are legal in Windows. Some programs have no problems, but others do.
Some web servers have difficulty with characters, even with capital letters, while others don't. Rather than take a chance, I just avoid & # space etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Filenames Reply with quote

"my fileanmes are legal to Windows, and if an application has problems adhearing to the rules imposed by the OS ..."

That would be one good reason to test (remember this IS Beta Testing) with temporarily revised filenames -- "Does the app have problems with legal filenames?"

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must ask...

How did the last 2 posts get entered in the forum?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Spam forum postings Reply with quote

The Forum has become a new way to send Spam it seems. Recently, I have been deleting new 'users' and postings. I am thinking it is probably an automatic 'script' that is run to post Spam email. I am looking as to what can be done to get rid of the problem.

I'm afraid that 'as usual' we may have to make things a little inconvenient because of this type of thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Passagee,

Quite simply, do as FF (FotoFusion) does. They ask all visitors to "log in"!!
Regardless, of who it is, simply... log-in. Short and sweet. No need for anyone to get excited.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Log In Reply with quote

Hi Steve,

Great answer! It kept me out for awhile until I got the log in figured out.

Now it's great to be on-line in the forum again.

No need to get excited? I'm excited.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back Loretta!

I just noticed the colored slider bar on the side of the forum. Don't think I've seen that before.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: Side Bar Reply with quote

Hey,

It's nice to be back.

That colored sidebar is new. Pretty cool.

Did you enjoy the genealogy conference in Stony Brook?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What colour is this new slider supposed to be? Mine is still grey!

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